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What determines if a game is casual or hardcore? Feel free to chime in on the discussion in the comments below.
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Agamemnon Jul 9, 2009 at 11:05 pm
+1 votes
Gotta be honest with you guys. Felt like you went on for quite some time without really going any where when you were talking about casual vs. hardcore. I blame Sol really. Snail mentioned MMOs and that's like dangling a shiny set of keys in front of his face.
Got a good laugh at Snail reading word-for-word what I said though. Nice episode.
Oh, and Sol, now you agree with what I said? : P
Got a good laugh at Snail reading word-for-word what I said though. Nice episode.
Oh, and Sol, now you agree with what I said? : P
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Snail Jul 10, 2009 at 12:15 am
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Sorry about that! The man has a passion and I brought it up, hehe.
Cleric Jul 10, 2009 at 8:36 am
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"I said good day sir!" - ROFL!
Making money while doing nothing
What's that!?
Most ppl will say "Time is money", but doing nothing in that time and not make any money, that's rare...
Empire Total War:
I have a friend that loves that one, but yeah you really need to like the game to actually play it. Because it's complex, and has a learning curves.
WOW suck. EVE, now that is quality
Old gamers growing up with more responsibilities and having less and less time to play games... True
I used to say to other gamers I know, that you MAKE time to play games!
But the truth is, it becomes harder as time goes by to make that time to play...
The difference:
What Agamemnon said, I agree. But I also agree on how you guys described what the difference is between casual and hard core games.
The simple version is imo, a casual game can be a hard core game, and a hard core game can also be a casual game. It's all about how the player plays it.
Players playing a games 24/7 to become the master, might be sitting at a reception desk owning at making cakes. That's hard core! lol
Then there are players (like myself) that has a big variety in games, and doesn't focus all that much on one game, and plays many games casually and when they have time to play a game.
So I guess it's mostly all in the eye of the player
Time playing game:
My mom was also quite shocked last year when I told her that our clan would play pro comps ,and heard that we would practice 3-4 nights a week from 19:00 to 22:00-ish :P
I think she will faint if she should see my Xfire game stats lol.
Making money while doing nothing
What's that!?Most ppl will say "Time is money", but doing nothing in that time and not make any money, that's rare...
Empire Total War:
I have a friend that loves that one, but yeah you really need to like the game to actually play it. Because it's complex, and has a learning curves.
WOW suck. EVE, now that is quality
Old gamers growing up with more responsibilities and having less and less time to play games... True
I used to say to other gamers I know, that you MAKE time to play games!
But the truth is, it becomes harder as time goes by to make that time to play...
The difference:
What Agamemnon said, I agree. But I also agree on how you guys described what the difference is between casual and hard core games.
The simple version is imo, a casual game can be a hard core game, and a hard core game can also be a casual game. It's all about how the player plays it.
Players playing a games 24/7 to become the master, might be sitting at a reception desk owning at making cakes. That's hard core! lol
Then there are players (like myself) that has a big variety in games, and doesn't focus all that much on one game, and plays many games casually and when they have time to play a game.
So I guess it's mostly all in the eye of the player
Time playing game:
My mom was also quite shocked last year when I told her that our clan would play pro comps ,and heard that we would practice 3-4 nights a week from 19:00 to 22:00-ish :P
I think she will faint if she should see my Xfire game stats lol.
HELLFROG Jul 11, 2009 at 9:55 am
+2 votes
very good insight Cleric
based on that, I would say the discussion is to identify the weighted balance between a game's attributes.
For instance, what makes a hardcore game is that you can't possibly play it casually and enjoy it.
A criteria that comes to mind is how much time it takes to evolve a character/dive into the story
-FF for example.
Punch Out is a 50/50 Casual - Hardcore. You can enjoy Glass Joe over and over, and eventually make it to Tyson and still enjoy yourself. However if you put the time to grind in, you can really KO everyone quickly and rack up stars (learn the patterns & practice the responses versus react).
The Total Casual game = flash games.
mho~!~
based on that, I would say the discussion is to identify the weighted balance between a game's attributes.
For instance, what makes a hardcore game is that you can't possibly play it casually and enjoy it.
A criteria that comes to mind is how much time it takes to evolve a character/dive into the story
-FF for example.
Punch Out is a 50/50 Casual - Hardcore. You can enjoy Glass Joe over and over, and eventually make it to Tyson and still enjoy yourself. However if you put the time to grind in, you can really KO everyone quickly and rack up stars (learn the patterns & practice the responses versus react).
The Total Casual game = flash games.
mho~!~
Cleric Jul 12, 2009 at 5:28 pm
+1 votes
Indeed.
Flash games would be the most common casual game, but I honestly can't remember when I last touched a flash game - lol
Flash games would be the most common casual game, but I honestly can't remember when I last touched a flash game - lol
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