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Someone at Stardock doesn't care if handicapped people can't park. So as long as the paint on that $100k+ Porsche 911 Turbo doesn't get scratched, that's what really matters.
Internet high five goes to Keenan Weaver for providing this image in response to this Facebook challenge issued by PC Gamer. He reckons the car belongs to Stardock CEO Brad Wardell.
Source.
So I flew all the way to Stardocks' HQ from Philly over the weekend and snapped this picture of proof that the car is not only Brad's, but the real reason why he parked the way he did.
He's just so excited to get to work! Look at him go!
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Wargasm Aug 27, 2009 at 6:06 pm
-3 votes
Looks reasonable to me. Nobody parks in those spots anyway. I'd park my porsche like an ******* too if I had one.
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Sol Invictus Aug 27, 2009 at 6:10 pm
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I don't see the big deal. When you own the building and the parking lot, you can park however and wherever you want to. It's not as if the other lots aren't empty. Handicapped folk can park wherever they want to. It's not a public space.
While this isn't a direct comparison, I used to sit in the handicap spot on the train all the time. Maybe you could accuse me of being mentally handicapped for doing so, but I would've gotten up if a handicapped person had come onboard and needed a seat. You give your seat up to the handicapped when they need it. If there are other seats available, the handicapped can sit wherever they like.
This reminds me of a website I once saw where some passive aggressive handicapped person was taking photos of "********" who sat in the handicapped spot. Never mind the fact that there were a billion other seats available and he was able to sit down on any number of them. He just had this idea in his head that they were ******** for sitting at the handicapped seat.
While this isn't a direct comparison, I used to sit in the handicap spot on the train all the time. Maybe you could accuse me of being mentally handicapped for doing so, but I would've gotten up if a handicapped person had come onboard and needed a seat. You give your seat up to the handicapped when they need it. If there are other seats available, the handicapped can sit wherever they like.
This reminds me of a website I once saw where some passive aggressive handicapped person was taking photos of "********" who sat in the handicapped spot. Never mind the fact that there were a billion other seats available and he was able to sit down on any number of them. He just had this idea in his head that they were ******** for sitting at the handicapped seat.
Agamemnon Aug 27, 2009 at 6:43 pm
+3 votes
Uh, you don't "own" a government-regulated parking space, especially when you have to have a permit from the city to have a handicap parking space on your lot. At that point, guess what, if you park there and you're not handicapped, you can be fined up to $100.
Sol Invictus Aug 27, 2009 at 6:48 pm
+2 votes
Sounds like a stupid law to me. Much ado about nothing.
It's not like Mr. Wardell is pushing people in wheelchairs down staircases ,you know.
It's not like Mr. Wardell is pushing people in wheelchairs down staircases ,you know.
Sol Invictus Aug 27, 2009 at 8:35 pm
+1 votes
While I was being completely facetious, I still do not see why this is a big issue. That parking lot looks empty.
Agamemnon Aug 27, 2009 at 8:38 pm
+4 votes
A right is a right. It's available to you 24/7, not when some douchebag with a Porsche says, "Oh, a handicap person wants to park there? Let me go move my car then." Yeah, how about don't park there in the first place and don't be a douchebag period? Crazy idea, I know.
Sol Invictus Aug 27, 2009 at 8:46 pm
+1 votes
I wouldn't call Brad Wardell a douchebag, assuming that's even his car.
Left4Kev Aug 28, 2009 at 1:37 am
+1 votes
It would be somewhat funny if he were actually pushing people in wheelchairs down stairs though.
Dizko Aug 27, 2009 at 9:20 pm
+3 votes
$100 is nothing to a guy who owns a car that costs $100k+
In a building like that the handicapped spots are kinda retarded, don't mind the pun.
For example I work for a tech company and we have upwards of 500 people at the location I work at and because of that we're required to have 4 handicapped spots in an already crowded parking lot. How many of them get used? Zero. We're not a walk in type of facility like a doctors office or a grocery mart, so the likelihood of some random disabled person coming to our building for any reason is slim, so a single solitary spot would be fine. But because of the law, we need four.
For me, it's less about the legality of parking in such a spot. What's being done there is just bad form and makes you look like a total ****. Not only is he taking up a handicap spot, he's taking up two spaces. That's the kind of thing people get their car keyed for. Just because you spent too much money on your car doesn't give you the right to take up two spaces because it's "worth" more than the average persons car. If you don't want to ruin a car, then don't ******* buy it. It's that materialistic worship of the gesture that drives me crazy, it's the little things like this that make humanity look horrible.
In a building like that the handicapped spots are kinda retarded, don't mind the pun.
For example I work for a tech company and we have upwards of 500 people at the location I work at and because of that we're required to have 4 handicapped spots in an already crowded parking lot. How many of them get used? Zero. We're not a walk in type of facility like a doctors office or a grocery mart, so the likelihood of some random disabled person coming to our building for any reason is slim, so a single solitary spot would be fine. But because of the law, we need four.
For me, it's less about the legality of parking in such a spot. What's being done there is just bad form and makes you look like a total ****. Not only is he taking up a handicap spot, he's taking up two spaces. That's the kind of thing people get their car keyed for. Just because you spent too much money on your car doesn't give you the right to take up two spaces because it's "worth" more than the average persons car. If you don't want to ruin a car, then don't ******* buy it. It's that materialistic worship of the gesture that drives me crazy, it's the little things like this that make humanity look horrible.
Agamemnon Aug 27, 2009 at 9:32 pm
+4 votes
I said "up to." The law is flexible for different states. I know for a parking job like that Florida police would probably take it a step further, especially with something like that. Regardless, public access is still public access. It's not about if there is a handicap person working at your job or not; as far as you know you or anyone else at work can get in a car accident tomorrow. And despite that you're not exactly a "public" access point or building, that still doesn't dismiss that, by law, it's still required, because you never know who might need to come in. Double points for saying it's not all that accessible inside the building; if a handicap person is barred from access (or given the right of) because the building plans don't include handicap access, then your company can be looking at a nasty lawsuit that they'd lose automatically.
It's about rights. These laws were established because there was a lot of discrimination against the handicapped. And that's just the thing; you can get in an accident tomorrow, have some sort of physical disability, and voila, welcome to the life of a handicap. The system is in place for what may happen, not what is currently happening, so if it does happen, then you've got your bases covered and you've done nothing wrong; life goes on, the handicapped have accessibility, and no issues need to come up with the law.
It's about rights. These laws were established because there was a lot of discrimination against the handicapped. And that's just the thing; you can get in an accident tomorrow, have some sort of physical disability, and voila, welcome to the life of a handicap. The system is in place for what may happen, not what is currently happening, so if it does happen, then you've got your bases covered and you've done nothing wrong; life goes on, the handicapped have accessibility, and no issues need to come up with the law.
n00bie51 Aug 27, 2009 at 11:48 pm
+1 votes
Hooray, I learned something today on a gaming website that wasn't about games.
n00bie51 Aug 28, 2009 at 12:16 am
+1 votes
Here and there, I'm still frequenting Game Riot, you know, I just don't comment that much.
Dizko Aug 28, 2009 at 10:12 am
+1 votes
Stardock isn't about games? Stardock vs PC Gamer in a Demigod showdown isn't about games?
n00bie51 Aug 28, 2009 at 10:25 am
+1 votes
Dizko said
Stardock isn't about games? Stardock vs PC Gamer in a Demigod showdown isn't about games?
Left4Kev Aug 28, 2009 at 1:39 am
+1 votes
"In a building like that the handicapped spots are kinda retarded"......... LMAO. I fell out of my chair.
Left4Kev Aug 29, 2009 at 1:30 am
+1 votes
Ha-ha, but no. my desk chair. Though, there are wheels on it.
Cleric Aug 28, 2009 at 10:20 am
+1 votes
I also work in an office complex. And the weird thing is, we also require handicapped spots, but we on the 1st floor with no lift... lol
soydeedo Aug 28, 2009 at 6:20 am
+5 votes
I'm with Agamemnon here - this guy is a prick. The only reason I would think otherwise would be if he just parked like this for a few minutes.
Also, notice that he took the spot that has the easiest wheelchair lift access. I think the most common lift configuration has the occupant exiting on the passenger side. Yes, the spot next to it would be able to unload onto the sidewalk, but as someone who has operated a wheelchair lift before, I can tell you that can be a bit trickier.
Also, notice that he took the spot that has the easiest wheelchair lift access. I think the most common lift configuration has the occupant exiting on the passenger side. Yes, the spot next to it would be able to unload onto the sidewalk, but as someone who has operated a wheelchair lift before, I can tell you that can be a bit trickier.
Agamemnon Aug 28, 2009 at 7:29 am
+8 votes
I need to know the guy and his schedule to see that he parked like a douchebag? That's news to me.
Lusida Aug 28, 2009 at 1:12 pm
-4 votes
Yes you do.
I dont think he got up early in the morning and his first thought was:
"Lets show these stupid disabled person whos the mighty one, harharhar!"
Maybe he overslept, got a call for a meeting with a very important publisher were 1-2 millions are discussed, was happy to get there in time...
-and yes -
didnt give a **** about a parking slot on HIS own property at the building he bought, where he works with people that like and respect him. Even IF there are disabled persons working over there, im sure none of them take it as serious as you do).
Believe me, disabled persons are way more robust than you think (emotionally). most of them live on the edge to death and they have problems - but the last thing they care about is parking space. Not that it is impossible to find another one in 30 secs. It really doesnt matter if you have to go 20 or 25 meters in with your wheelchair (despite the nurse). They are disbled not completely incapable.
IMHO this post isnt worth more than the report that brad stole a cigarette lighter when he was 14. Except THIS is harms his reputation and its absolutely irresponsible to report about the issue without exact knowlege of the circumstances.
I thought this blog is about games and not about paparazzi collecting the latest shoddy articles about famous people.
Sorry. this is just cheap.
Whats next, some news about the british royal house ?
I dont think he got up early in the morning and his first thought was:
"Lets show these stupid disabled person whos the mighty one, harharhar!"
Maybe he overslept, got a call for a meeting with a very important publisher were 1-2 millions are discussed, was happy to get there in time...
-and yes -
didnt give a **** about a parking slot on HIS own property at the building he bought, where he works with people that like and respect him. Even IF there are disabled persons working over there, im sure none of them take it as serious as you do).
Believe me, disabled persons are way more robust than you think (emotionally). most of them live on the edge to death and they have problems - but the last thing they care about is parking space. Not that it is impossible to find another one in 30 secs. It really doesnt matter if you have to go 20 or 25 meters in with your wheelchair (despite the nurse). They are disbled not completely incapable.
IMHO this post isnt worth more than the report that brad stole a cigarette lighter when he was 14. Except THIS is harms his reputation and its absolutely irresponsible to report about the issue without exact knowlege of the circumstances.
I thought this blog is about games and not about paparazzi collecting the latest shoddy articles about famous people.
Sorry. this is just cheap.
Whats next, some news about the british royal house ?
Agamemnon Aug 28, 2009 at 2:04 pm
+3 votes
Bassui wrote the following letter to one of his disciples who was about to die:
"The essence of your mind is not born, so it will never die. It is not an existence, which is perishable. It is not an emptiness, which is a mere void. It has neither color nor form. It enjoys no pleasures and suffers no pains.
"I know you are very ill. Like a good Zen student, you are facing that sickness squarely. You may not know exactly who is suffering, but question yourself: What is the essence of this mind? Think only of this. You will need no more. Covet nothing. Your end which is endless is as a snowflake dissolving in the pure air."
"The essence of your mind is not born, so it will never die. It is not an existence, which is perishable. It is not an emptiness, which is a mere void. It has neither color nor form. It enjoys no pleasures and suffers no pains.
"I know you are very ill. Like a good Zen student, you are facing that sickness squarely. You may not know exactly who is suffering, but question yourself: What is the essence of this mind? Think only of this. You will need no more. Covet nothing. Your end which is endless is as a snowflake dissolving in the pure air."
Dizko Aug 28, 2009 at 3:01 pm
+3 votes
No one ever said it was Brad Wardell's car, the only ones making that assumption are commentators and the Facebook user who posted the image.
Dizko Aug 28, 2009 at 3:04 pm
+2 votes
Take it for what it is, smack talk for a exhibition match of Demigod between PC Gamer and Stardock provided with a humorous image of someone double parked at Stardock (it is their building you can look it up on their site) and a fan claiming it was Brad Wardell. It just silly, I never once suggested it was the CEO or said anything bad about him.
Agamemnon Aug 28, 2009 at 3:43 pm
+4 votes
Many Zen pupils were studing meditation under the Zen master Sengai. One of them used to arise at night, climb over the temple wall, and go to town on a pleasure jaunt.
Sengai, inspecting the dormitory quarters, found this pupil missing one night and also discovered the high stool he had used to scale the well. Sengai removed the stool and stood there in its place.
When the wanderer returned, not knowing that Sengai was the stool, he put his feet on the master's head and jumped down into the grounds. Discovering what he had done, he was aghast.
Sengai said: "It is very chilly in the early morning. Do be careful not to catch cold yourself."
The pupil never went out at night again.
Sengai, inspecting the dormitory quarters, found this pupil missing one night and also discovered the high stool he had used to scale the well. Sengai removed the stool and stood there in its place.
When the wanderer returned, not knowing that Sengai was the stool, he put his feet on the master's head and jumped down into the grounds. Discovering what he had done, he was aghast.
Sengai said: "It is very chilly in the early morning. Do be careful not to catch cold yourself."
The pupil never went out at night again.
Lusida Aug 29, 2009 at 5:02 am
-4 votes
Lol, the whole post IS about an assumption:
"WHAT IF it is Brads car."
And then everyone starts judging and discussing about this fiction forgetting that its nothing but a picture and not real.
About the dream world:
In real life im very rooted. I have several degrees, all related to logic/math and computers.
For me, this is just a fun forum, but if i read all the "serious" articles you write, it seems you are way more involved in virtual reality than i am.Your whole attitude screams "hostile and smarty pants".
Lets face it, your fighting ghosts like me all your life and you always will. Im "just another idiot" in one of your categories and you take it serious. Ill check later to see what me little upset "comment robot" will respond and have some fun again.
Maybe its time for a new account and a new name to set you up again with stupid tangling comments. Thats what smart people do, stupid people discus with ghosts.
yours" idiot"-
and sorry i ruined the only place you know how to life and have a reputation - the forums.
"WHAT IF it is Brads car."
And then everyone starts judging and discussing about this fiction forgetting that its nothing but a picture and not real.
About the dream world:
In real life im very rooted. I have several degrees, all related to logic/math and computers.
For me, this is just a fun forum, but if i read all the "serious" articles you write, it seems you are way more involved in virtual reality than i am.Your whole attitude screams "hostile and smarty pants".
Lets face it, your fighting ghosts like me all your life and you always will. Im "just another idiot" in one of your categories and you take it serious. Ill check later to see what me little upset "comment robot" will respond and have some fun again.
Maybe its time for a new account and a new name to set you up again with stupid tangling comments. Thats what smart people do, stupid people discus with ghosts.
yours" idiot"-
and sorry i ruined the only place you know how to life and have a reputation - the forums.
Agamemnon Aug 29, 2009 at 10:20 am
+5 votes
Ryokan devoted his life to the study of Zen. One day he heard that his nephew, despite the admonitions of relatives, was spending his money on a courtesan. Inasmuch as the nephew had taken Ryokan's place in managing the family estate and the property was in danger of being dissipated, the relatives asked Ryokan to do something about it.
Ryokan had to travel a long way to visit his nephew, whom he had not seen for many years. The nephew seemed pleased to meet his uncle again and invited him to remain overnight.
All night Ryokan sat in meditation. As he was departing in the morning he said to the young man: "I must be getting old, my hand shakes so. Will you help me tie the string of my straw sandal?"
The nephew helped him willingly. "Thank you," finished Ryokan, "you see, a man becomes older and feebler day by day. Take good care of yourself." Then Ryokan left, never mentioning a word about the courtesan or the complaints of the relatives. But, from that morning on, the dissipations of the nephew ended.
Ryokan had to travel a long way to visit his nephew, whom he had not seen for many years. The nephew seemed pleased to meet his uncle again and invited him to remain overnight.
All night Ryokan sat in meditation. As he was departing in the morning he said to the young man: "I must be getting old, my hand shakes so. Will you help me tie the string of my straw sandal?"
The nephew helped him willingly. "Thank you," finished Ryokan, "you see, a man becomes older and feebler day by day. Take good care of yourself." Then Ryokan left, never mentioning a word about the courtesan or the complaints of the relatives. But, from that morning on, the dissipations of the nephew ended.
Agamemnon Aug 29, 2009 at 1:43 pm
+4 votes
Kasan was asked to officiate at the funeral of a provincial lord.
He had never met lords and nobles before so he was nervous. When the ceremony started, Kasan sweat.
Afterwards, when he had returned, he gathered his pupils together. Kasan confessed that he was not yet qualified to be a teacher for he lacked the sameness of bearing in the world of fame that he possessed in the secluded temple. Then Kasan resigned and became the pupil of another master. Eight years later he returned to his former pupils, enlightened.
He had never met lords and nobles before so he was nervous. When the ceremony started, Kasan sweat.
Afterwards, when he had returned, he gathered his pupils together. Kasan confessed that he was not yet qualified to be a teacher for he lacked the sameness of bearing in the world of fame that he possessed in the secluded temple. Then Kasan resigned and became the pupil of another master. Eight years later he returned to his former pupils, enlightened.
Agamemnon Aug 31, 2009 at 10:02 am
+5 votes
Zen pupils take a vow that even if they are killed by their teacher, they intend to learn Zen. Usually they cut a finger and seal their resolution with blood. In time the vow has become a mere formality, and for this reason the pupil who died by the hand of Ekido was made to appear a martyr.
Ekido had become a severe teacher. His pupils feared him. One of them on duty, striking the gong to tell the time of day, missed his beats when his eye was attracted by a beautiful girl passing the temple gate.
At that moment Ekido, who was directly behind him, hit him with a stick and the shock happened to kill him.
The pupil's guardian, hearing of the accident, went directly to Ekido. Knowing that he was not to blame, he praised the master for his severe teaching. Ekido's attitude was just the same as if the pupil were still alive.
After this took place, he was able to produce under his guidance more than ten enlightened successors, a very unusual number.
Ekido had become a severe teacher. His pupils feared him. One of them on duty, striking the gong to tell the time of day, missed his beats when his eye was attracted by a beautiful girl passing the temple gate.
At that moment Ekido, who was directly behind him, hit him with a stick and the shock happened to kill him.
The pupil's guardian, hearing of the accident, went directly to Ekido. Knowing that he was not to blame, he praised the master for his severe teaching. Ekido's attitude was just the same as if the pupil were still alive.
After this took place, he was able to produce under his guidance more than ten enlightened successors, a very unusual number.
Project_Xii Aug 31, 2009 at 10:45 am
+4 votes
Sol? A Drama Queen?
Hah, perhaps so, but wouldn't you be having a pot/kettle moment in saying that? After all, you seem to be the source of most of this posts drama, insisting that the Stardock guy is a douchebag, even though it was a joke. Relax, mon. I thought you didn't care about the small stuff?
Hah, perhaps so, but wouldn't you be having a pot/kettle moment in saying that? After all, you seem to be the source of most of this posts drama, insisting that the Stardock guy is a douchebag, even though it was a joke. Relax, mon. I thought you didn't care about the small stuff?
Agamemnon Aug 31, 2009 at 10:49 am
+2 votes
When Eshun, the Zen nun, was past sixty and about to leave this world, she asked some monks to pile up wood in the yard.
Seating herself firmly in the center of the funeral pyre, she had it set fire around the edges.
"O nun!" shouted one monk, "is it hot in there?"
"Such a matter would concern only a stupid person like yourself," answered Eshun.
The flames arose, and she passed away.
Seating herself firmly in the center of the funeral pyre, she had it set fire around the edges.
"O nun!" shouted one monk, "is it hot in there?"
"Such a matter would concern only a stupid person like yourself," answered Eshun.
The flames arose, and she passed away.
Sol Invictus Aug 31, 2009 at 11:02 am
-2 votes
Three things, Agamemnon:
1) I did not downvote you except for your comment above the previous. Every other person downvoted you because you're behaving like an oversensitive child and blowing a simple issue out of proportion.
2) Believing that I downvoted you on sockpuppet accounts does not give you the right to create multiple accounts with which to upvote yourself.
3) Please try to follow the wisdom you happen to dispense.
1) I did not downvote you except for your comment above the previous. Every other person downvoted you because you're behaving like an oversensitive child and blowing a simple issue out of proportion.
2) Believing that I downvoted you on sockpuppet accounts does not give you the right to create multiple accounts with which to upvote yourself.
3) Please try to follow the wisdom you happen to dispense.
Agamemnon Aug 31, 2009 at 12:00 pm
+2 votes
A nun who was searching for enlightenment made a statue of Buddha and covered it with gold leaf. Wherever she went she carried this golden Buddha with her.
Years passed and, still carrying her Buddha, the nun came to live in a small temple in a country where there were many Buddhas, each one with its own particular shrine.
The nun wished to burn incense before her golden Buddha. Not liking the idea of the perfume straying to the others, she devised a funnel through which the smoke would ascend only to her statue. This blackened the nose of the golden Buddha, making it especially ugly.
Years passed and, still carrying her Buddha, the nun came to live in a small temple in a country where there were many Buddhas, each one with its own particular shrine.
The nun wished to burn incense before her golden Buddha. Not liking the idea of the perfume straying to the others, she devised a funnel through which the smoke would ascend only to her statue. This blackened the nose of the golden Buddha, making it especially ugly.
Sol Invictus Aug 31, 2009 at 11:40 pm
-3 votes
Hahaha. You must actually think that you're making me angry with all of this nonsense but I can't help but laugh at your antics, Agamemnon. You're letting your quarter life crisis leak all over the internet. It's just silly how you'd turn a small disagreement over a joke into a very horrid and ugly personal attack against me.
Do grow up sometime this decade, won't you please? If not for everyone else's sake, then do it for your own sake. You aren't earning any fans here.
Do grow up sometime this decade, won't you please? If not for everyone else's sake, then do it for your own sake. You aren't earning any fans here.
Agamemnon Sep 1, 2009 at 11:47 am
+1 votes
Keichu, the great Zen teacher of the Meiji era, was the head of Tofuku, a cathedral in Kyoto. One day the governor of Kyoto called upon him for the first time.
His attendant presented the card of the governor, which read: Kitagaki, Governor of Kyoto.
"I have no business with such a fellow," said Keichu to his attendant. "Tell him to get out of here."
The attendant carried the card back with apologies. "That was my error," said the governor, and with a pencil he scratched out the words Governor of Kyoto. "Ask your teacher again."
"Oh, is that Kitagaki?" exclaimed the teacher when he saw the card. "I want to see that fellow."
His attendant presented the card of the governor, which read: Kitagaki, Governor of Kyoto.
"I have no business with such a fellow," said Keichu to his attendant. "Tell him to get out of here."
The attendant carried the card back with apologies. "That was my error," said the governor, and with a pencil he scratched out the words Governor of Kyoto. "Ask your teacher again."
"Oh, is that Kitagaki?" exclaimed the teacher when he saw the card. "I want to see that fellow."
Dizko Sep 1, 2009 at 1:12 pm
+2 votes
I feel like this is a rap battle, but with less rhymes and no booty shaking.
Sol Invictus Sep 1, 2009 at 3:11 pm
+0 votes
Dudebro, the only reason I'm shaking at my keyboard is because I've had too much coffee. I can tell that you'd make a pretty bad psychic if you think I'm being angry right now, but I'll give you a star for effort.
Fact of the matter is that all you're doing right now is describing yourself and painting past situations (if you could even call them that) in a certain light as to back up the weak claims that you're making. I don't see why you feel the need to include somebody who can't speak for herself into this little tirade that you're throwing. If you want to make it personal, then we can always do so, but you insist on making a public spectacle about absolutely everything.
I could delete everything, but you know, the only reason I'd do so is because you're ****ting up the site, not because of anything else. It states pretty explicitly in the rules that you aren't supposed to get all personal over meaningless issues like a joke about someone's bad parking. This is a game website, it's not HBO.
In any case, how did I blow anything out of proportion, exactly? I simply said that people ought to stop making a big deal out of a joke and you decided to make it personal. I mean, hell, you posted some pretty awful stuff to me quite a ways before my final comment, which I deleted for the sake of keeping the comments thread civil.
Calling me a "dumb ****" or any other name does not help your case one bit. Besides, why should I give you the last word? This is my house, *****.
Fact of the matter is that all you're doing right now is describing yourself and painting past situations (if you could even call them that) in a certain light as to back up the weak claims that you're making. I don't see why you feel the need to include somebody who can't speak for herself into this little tirade that you're throwing. If you want to make it personal, then we can always do so, but you insist on making a public spectacle about absolutely everything.
I could delete everything, but you know, the only reason I'd do so is because you're ****ting up the site, not because of anything else. It states pretty explicitly in the rules that you aren't supposed to get all personal over meaningless issues like a joke about someone's bad parking. This is a game website, it's not HBO.
In any case, how did I blow anything out of proportion, exactly? I simply said that people ought to stop making a big deal out of a joke and you decided to make it personal. I mean, hell, you posted some pretty awful stuff to me quite a ways before my final comment, which I deleted for the sake of keeping the comments thread civil.
Calling me a "dumb ****" or any other name does not help your case one bit. Besides, why should I give you the last word? This is my house, *****.
Agamemnon Sep 2, 2009 at 12:24 am
+0 votes
Zen students are with their masters at least ten years before they presume to teach others. Nan-in was visited by Tenno, who, having passed his apprenticeship, had become a teacher. The day happened to be rainy, so Tenno wore wooden clogs and carried an umbrella. After greeting him Nan-in remarked: "I suppose you left your wodden clogs in the vestibule. I want to know if your umbrella is on the right or left side of the clogs."
Tenno, confused, had no instant answer. He realized that he was unable to carry his Zen every minute. He became Nan-in's pupil, and he studied six more years to accomplish his every-minute Zen.
Tenno, confused, had no instant answer. He realized that he was unable to carry his Zen every minute. He became Nan-in's pupil, and he studied six more years to accomplish his every-minute Zen.
Sol Invictus Sep 2, 2009 at 1:56 am
-3 votes
You're the guy ranting and I'm the drama queen. Oh, right. I forgot that we moved to Bizarro World.
You know, you don't have to turn every argument into a personal pissing match. People a right to disagree with you, and realize that none of us are even 'ganging up' against you as you seem to think. What's this about Lusida and I being ******** when you're the one who decided to 'take it to the next level' as it were by lashing out with personal attacks? I don't get that at all. All I ever said was that the parking joke wasn't a big deal -- because it isn't a big deal.
Your personal attacks against Brad Wardell, myself, and everyone who's ever "dared" (haha!) to disagree with you are, as always, completely unwarranted and your actions are simply inane, contemptible and beyond reproach.
Besides me, you've attacked Wargasm, Bethryn, Slapnuts and so many others just because their views do not align with your own. Who needs to get a life?
Oh, and unless I'm mistaken, you're ultimately saying that you want the last word in, and because you can't get it you're going to throw a tantrum until you do. Yeah, you stay classy, Agamemnon.
You know, you don't have to turn every argument into a personal pissing match. People a right to disagree with you, and realize that none of us are even 'ganging up' against you as you seem to think. What's this about Lusida and I being ******** when you're the one who decided to 'take it to the next level' as it were by lashing out with personal attacks? I don't get that at all. All I ever said was that the parking joke wasn't a big deal -- because it isn't a big deal.
Your personal attacks against Brad Wardell, myself, and everyone who's ever "dared" (haha!) to disagree with you are, as always, completely unwarranted and your actions are simply inane, contemptible and beyond reproach.
Besides me, you've attacked Wargasm, Bethryn, Slapnuts and so many others just because their views do not align with your own. Who needs to get a life?
Oh, and unless I'm mistaken, you're ultimately saying that you want the last word in, and because you can't get it you're going to throw a tantrum until you do. Yeah, you stay classy, Agamemnon.
Project_Xii Sep 2, 2009 at 2:09 am
+2 votes
This needs to stop now. I'm about two posts away from going on a mass deletion rampage. This crap doesn't look great for the site, especially when we obviously have important people in the gaming industry reading it. What, do we want them to think that every portal on Gameriot is like the WoW one?
No more bickering. If you must do so, do it on Twitter, the forums or PM. We don't want to lose posters because of stupid **** like this.
No more bickering. If you must do so, do it on Twitter, the forums or PM. We don't want to lose posters because of stupid **** like this.
Dizko Sep 2, 2009 at 9:57 am
+1 votes
No offense Ag, but Sol is a good writer saying he's not is just silly! PS you're also an excellent writer so how about we direct this energy into writing some epic blog posts? K thx bai.
Sol Invictus Sep 2, 2009 at 4:10 pm
-4 votes
Thanks for imparting your zen wisdom. It's really quite valuable!
Sol Invictus Sep 2, 2009 at 4:37 pm
-3 votes
It must be that the letters themselves were so disgusted by their content that they rearranged into prolfiic Zen koans. The universe is once again in balance.
Agamemnon Sep 2, 2009 at 7:35 pm
+3 votes
You just lost yourself another writer. Good luck, try not to kill yourself, bye.
Shadowlol Sep 2, 2009 at 9:27 pm
+6 votes
"I did it. His nonsense wasn't good for
the site. I received way too many complaints and didn't feel like messing
around with him anymore."
Can't say I wasn't expecting that.
Doubtless you'll delete this post or "rearrange" my words into
"prolfiic Zen koans" but no worries, I just hope you give it some
consideration before you go-a-mutilating.
I don't know you personally Sol, I don't even know you as an acquaintance, all
I know of you is what you've chosen to spew all over a portal which you happen
to moderate (dictate may be a more appropriate word here).
The first time I stumbled upon your antics was
in an article written by the then new blogger; Snail (remember her? silly
question). As in any article there were a number of criticisms and some light abuse,
nothing surprising or unusual considering the audience. What I did find
unusual, considering the audience, was the obvious but unnecessary attempts at
e-knighthood after every single negative comment. Back then all I could think,
and believe articulated in regular fashion was “lol what a dick”. Unnecessary,
obvious and dick. 3 words I felt best described you at the time, and tbh even
after becoming familiar with Hellforge (and inevitably yourself) I can’t say
I’ve found a more fitting description.
I’m not sure how Hellforge started up. I
believe you played a part in it, maybe even set the whole thing up yourself
which if true is at the very least commendable. What I don’t find commendable
is the route of hyperbole you chose to take. It’s all well and good feeling a
sense of ownership over something you helped to create, but to translate that
harmless sense into an abuse of position is damaging. Once you open a site, such
as gameriot, to the community it grows bigger than you, and if you continue to
hand pick what goes out and what is deleted (inside of what’s reasonable) you
insult the people who’ve helped with its development. Moderation should be
light and relatively unseen, and NEVER be used to gain majority in a debate or
to win an argument. If you are involved in a dispute which you later regret,
and have used language on par with your opponent you should get their approval
before you go deleting. What’s even worse is deleting only their side of the
argument. What I find disgusting (and says a lot about your character) is
altering their argument to mock them, leaving yours in place, and then coming
back to the thread to taunt them about it. Of course I’m speaking of “Thanks
for imparting your zen wisdom. It's really quite valuable!” I’m actually disgusted
by this blatant abuse of moderating powers. We’re you merely a moderator I
would petition endlessly for your removal, bringing up this and COUNTLESS other
cases of you essentially throwing a ***** fit when you don’t get your own way
and masturbating all over the edit/delete buttons. Unfortunately I fear that in
this realm your word is law and nothing will change that, so instead I will
take this opportunity to depart from Hellforge and it’s community of talented
writers (no, you’re not one of them sol, but I’ll get to that later).
Moderation aside (a first for you maybe?) let’s
discuss your contribution in the form of articles. I know you pride yourself on
your grasp of the English language and relatively wide vocabulary, what you haven’t
seemed to grasp yet is context and audience. Any 7yearold with a thesaurus
(hello interwebs?) could write what you write. In terms of content, most
7yearold DO write what you write, and by that I mean nothing. But wait, you
cry, I have written many vast and eloquent articles exploring the various
intricate details of the gaming universe! No sol, what you’ve written are oestrogen
infused pages of top dollar *****ery. If there were a subject, game related or
not, you have found a way to ***** about it. Yes I said oestrogen infused, and
yes you probably find that sexist – but hey, now that snail’s gone you don’t
have to write about your views on sexism anymore! Yeh, you didn’t really fool
anyone with your article on *****es and ****** in games, everyone saw that it
was essentially a poorly worded sonnet to the lady herself. The only blogs of
yours worth reading are word for word copy pastes from Blizzard, with maybe a
few words at the end incase anyone had forgotten how puketastic your homemade
sentences are. You seem to take a great deal of pleasure weaving obscure and unnecessary
words into your every paragraph, which you obviously believe makes you sound
intelligent – but really all it does is make you sound like a dick. (See what I
did there? All 3 words which best describe you woven into a sentence used to
describe you – damn I’m good!) Knowledge of the English language does not equal
intelligence. Knowledge of the English language does not equal maturity. All
knowledge of the English language equals is knowledge of the English language. It’s
like knowing every element in the periodic table, impressive yes, but no-one
wants to hear you recite them at every opportunity. There is a time and a
place, and you have yet to find that time or place (hint, it’s not on
self-referential tweets).
And that brings me to another point, your ego.
How we could have avoided it up till now is beyond me because it pretty much takes
up the entire front page. Never in my life have I ever met someone with such a
glorified self-image whilst at the same time being so undeserving. It leaks
into your every blog, into your every post, into your every PICTURE (sunglasses
and a scarf IN THE DARK while sitting at your computer anyone?! Well anything
is better than a simple face shot I guess OHNOSHEDIDNT), into your every tweet…
which you feel are important enough to force down everyone’s throat. And what
pointless tweets they are. When you’re not telling everyone what game you might
want to play in the future sometime maybe, you’re commenting on your latest
existential revelation or advising everyone to hug their dogs (because it’s
good for the soul? Do you make this **** up as you go along?). I’m sure you’ve
heard this before, but ill say it again anyways… nobody cares. Slapnuts seems
to have gotten the memo, snails and xii’s twitter page weren’t very welcome
either but at least they were bearable and not a place for e-masturbation. Condescension
should be your middle name because its all you do, even when you’re
complimenting someone! It’s unbelievable how you can smuggle in snippets of
superiority into post after post after post. I would give examples, but all you
have to do is scroll up to see it. Dripping.
God forbid anyone not recognise your
superiority amirte? Your social skills must be severely underdeveloped
considering the stories I’ve heard of, and witnessing your *****fits first
hand. When confronted with someone who’s views don’t necessarily align with
your own you head straight for the delete button. If deletion is not an option
you let them know how idiotic they are (because you couldn’t possibly be wrong
right?). If they continue to argue, you then go to an option I haven’t seen
since 2nd grade – recruiting. You let everyone else know, perhaps
via twitter perhaps via emails, just how much of a tard your opponent is. How
do I know this? Well I’m sure you remember an email you sent me just the other
day, linking straight to this article. I will repeat here in case you forgot:
“Oh man, I know
you've had some hilarious arguments with Agamemnon before but nothing matches
his latest tirade. Did I ever tell you about how he wanted me to delete your
posts on Hellforge just because you came from Wowriot? Oh man.”
What did you really expect me to do with that
Sol? Come straight to your defence? Attack Agamemnon since you failed so
terribly at it? Unfortunately for him and for your past opponents, this weak
attempt at manipulation may have actually worked with other more malleable sheep.
If it makes you feel better to think you’re in the right, then what better way
than having other people tell you you’re in the right, and what’s the easiest
way to get that? Oh right, asking them to tell you. Genius.
Well Sol, I think our time together has come
to an end. I was just going to tell you to off yourself asap, but I guess that
needed a bit of expansion. You disgust me.
To the rest of Hellforge keep doin what you’re
doin.
I'm out.
the site. I received way too many complaints and didn't feel like messing
around with him anymore."
Can't say I wasn't expecting that.
Doubtless you'll delete this post or "rearrange" my words into
"prolfiic Zen koans" but no worries, I just hope you give it some
consideration before you go-a-mutilating.
I don't know you personally Sol, I don't even know you as an acquaintance, all
I know of you is what you've chosen to spew all over a portal which you happen
to moderate (dictate may be a more appropriate word here).
The first time I stumbled upon your antics was
in an article written by the then new blogger; Snail (remember her? silly
question). As in any article there were a number of criticisms and some light abuse,
nothing surprising or unusual considering the audience. What I did find
unusual, considering the audience, was the obvious but unnecessary attempts at
e-knighthood after every single negative comment. Back then all I could think,
and believe articulated in regular fashion was “lol what a dick”. Unnecessary,
obvious and dick. 3 words I felt best described you at the time, and tbh even
after becoming familiar with Hellforge (and inevitably yourself) I can’t say
I’ve found a more fitting description.
I’m not sure how Hellforge started up. I
believe you played a part in it, maybe even set the whole thing up yourself
which if true is at the very least commendable. What I don’t find commendable
is the route of hyperbole you chose to take. It’s all well and good feeling a
sense of ownership over something you helped to create, but to translate that
harmless sense into an abuse of position is damaging. Once you open a site, such
as gameriot, to the community it grows bigger than you, and if you continue to
hand pick what goes out and what is deleted (inside of what’s reasonable) you
insult the people who’ve helped with its development. Moderation should be
light and relatively unseen, and NEVER be used to gain majority in a debate or
to win an argument. If you are involved in a dispute which you later regret,
and have used language on par with your opponent you should get their approval
before you go deleting. What’s even worse is deleting only their side of the
argument. What I find disgusting (and says a lot about your character) is
altering their argument to mock them, leaving yours in place, and then coming
back to the thread to taunt them about it. Of course I’m speaking of “Thanks
for imparting your zen wisdom. It's really quite valuable!” I’m actually disgusted
by this blatant abuse of moderating powers. We’re you merely a moderator I
would petition endlessly for your removal, bringing up this and COUNTLESS other
cases of you essentially throwing a ***** fit when you don’t get your own way
and masturbating all over the edit/delete buttons. Unfortunately I fear that in
this realm your word is law and nothing will change that, so instead I will
take this opportunity to depart from Hellforge and it’s community of talented
writers (no, you’re not one of them sol, but I’ll get to that later).
Moderation aside (a first for you maybe?) let’s
discuss your contribution in the form of articles. I know you pride yourself on
your grasp of the English language and relatively wide vocabulary, what you haven’t
seemed to grasp yet is context and audience. Any 7yearold with a thesaurus
(hello interwebs?) could write what you write. In terms of content, most
7yearold DO write what you write, and by that I mean nothing. But wait, you
cry, I have written many vast and eloquent articles exploring the various
intricate details of the gaming universe! No sol, what you’ve written are oestrogen
infused pages of top dollar *****ery. If there were a subject, game related or
not, you have found a way to ***** about it. Yes I said oestrogen infused, and
yes you probably find that sexist – but hey, now that snail’s gone you don’t
have to write about your views on sexism anymore! Yeh, you didn’t really fool
anyone with your article on *****es and ****** in games, everyone saw that it
was essentially a poorly worded sonnet to the lady herself. The only blogs of
yours worth reading are word for word copy pastes from Blizzard, with maybe a
few words at the end incase anyone had forgotten how puketastic your homemade
sentences are. You seem to take a great deal of pleasure weaving obscure and unnecessary
words into your every paragraph, which you obviously believe makes you sound
intelligent – but really all it does is make you sound like a dick. (See what I
did there? All 3 words which best describe you woven into a sentence used to
describe you – damn I’m good!) Knowledge of the English language does not equal
intelligence. Knowledge of the English language does not equal maturity. All
knowledge of the English language equals is knowledge of the English language. It’s
like knowing every element in the periodic table, impressive yes, but no-one
wants to hear you recite them at every opportunity. There is a time and a
place, and you have yet to find that time or place (hint, it’s not on
self-referential tweets).
And that brings me to another point, your ego.
How we could have avoided it up till now is beyond me because it pretty much takes
up the entire front page. Never in my life have I ever met someone with such a
glorified self-image whilst at the same time being so undeserving. It leaks
into your every blog, into your every post, into your every PICTURE (sunglasses
and a scarf IN THE DARK while sitting at your computer anyone?! Well anything
is better than a simple face shot I guess OHNOSHEDIDNT), into your every tweet…
which you feel are important enough to force down everyone’s throat. And what
pointless tweets they are. When you’re not telling everyone what game you might
want to play in the future sometime maybe, you’re commenting on your latest
existential revelation or advising everyone to hug their dogs (because it’s
good for the soul? Do you make this **** up as you go along?). I’m sure you’ve
heard this before, but ill say it again anyways… nobody cares. Slapnuts seems
to have gotten the memo, snails and xii’s twitter page weren’t very welcome
either but at least they were bearable and not a place for e-masturbation. Condescension
should be your middle name because its all you do, even when you’re
complimenting someone! It’s unbelievable how you can smuggle in snippets of
superiority into post after post after post. I would give examples, but all you
have to do is scroll up to see it. Dripping.
God forbid anyone not recognise your
superiority amirte? Your social skills must be severely underdeveloped
considering the stories I’ve heard of, and witnessing your *****fits first
hand. When confronted with someone who’s views don’t necessarily align with
your own you head straight for the delete button. If deletion is not an option
you let them know how idiotic they are (because you couldn’t possibly be wrong
right?). If they continue to argue, you then go to an option I haven’t seen
since 2nd grade – recruiting. You let everyone else know, perhaps
via twitter perhaps via emails, just how much of a tard your opponent is. How
do I know this? Well I’m sure you remember an email you sent me just the other
day, linking straight to this article. I will repeat here in case you forgot:
“Oh man, I know
you've had some hilarious arguments with Agamemnon before but nothing matches
his latest tirade. Did I ever tell you about how he wanted me to delete your
posts on Hellforge just because you came from Wowriot? Oh man.”
What did you really expect me to do with that
Sol? Come straight to your defence? Attack Agamemnon since you failed so
terribly at it? Unfortunately for him and for your past opponents, this weak
attempt at manipulation may have actually worked with other more malleable sheep.
If it makes you feel better to think you’re in the right, then what better way
than having other people tell you you’re in the right, and what’s the easiest
way to get that? Oh right, asking them to tell you. Genius.
Well Sol, I think our time together has come
to an end. I was just going to tell you to off yourself asap, but I guess that
needed a bit of expansion. You disgust me.
To the rest of Hellforge keep doin what you’re
doin.
I'm out.
Sol Invictus Sep 3, 2009 at 12:00 am
-4 votes
Well now, isn't that something. All I simply did was attempt to keep the place civil and clear of offensive discourse and personal insults and get abuse hurled at me as a result. I can't say that I didn't expect that. It's my website. I own it. If you have a problem with behaving in a manner becoming of your age then I'm not going to stop you from leaving.
I'm frankly sick and tired of having every normal discussion turning into someone's personal *****fest about how anyone who disagrees with him is a "retard" and how moderators who attempt to clean the place up are accused of behaving like nazis. Hellforge isn't some town hall meeting where you get to yell nonsense at the top of your lungs and treat others like garbage. If you treat others like garbage, just as Agamemnon has, then expect to be treated in kind.
Why should I have a single ounce of respect for him given what he's said to others and also to me when I never made a single personal attack against him prior to his choice to blow this whole joke about bad parking out of proportion?
The site has had to put up with his angst every time he's had a disagreement with someone and you can't even imagine the number of times he's asked me, personally, to delete the comments of those with whom he argued, to which Project XII and myself politely declined.
When he argued with you, Shadowlol, he asked me to delete your comments. Yes, this is the guy you're defending. I wonder how well the quote often misattributed to Voltaire, "I may not agree with what you have to say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it", applies in a situation like this one.
That I've opted to destroy his posts in a humiliating fashion instead of leaving them up is no different than the degrading bile he often feels the urge to uncontrollably spew all over the discussion threads.
That we've had to put up with his incoherent rubbish for so long while attempting to simmer down his volatile fury is something that none of us wish to put up with any longer. I've given him many chances, even in this thread, to cut that nonsense out and behave like a normal person and every attempt was met with a personal attack not too different from your own bile. Is it really that enjoyable to deconstruct a person?
If people have personal issues they'd like to address, then they can and should address it in private. This is not your personal Livejournal.
p.s. read more books.
I'm frankly sick and tired of having every normal discussion turning into someone's personal *****fest about how anyone who disagrees with him is a "retard" and how moderators who attempt to clean the place up are accused of behaving like nazis. Hellforge isn't some town hall meeting where you get to yell nonsense at the top of your lungs and treat others like garbage. If you treat others like garbage, just as Agamemnon has, then expect to be treated in kind.
Why should I have a single ounce of respect for him given what he's said to others and also to me when I never made a single personal attack against him prior to his choice to blow this whole joke about bad parking out of proportion?
The site has had to put up with his angst every time he's had a disagreement with someone and you can't even imagine the number of times he's asked me, personally, to delete the comments of those with whom he argued, to which Project XII and myself politely declined.
When he argued with you, Shadowlol, he asked me to delete your comments. Yes, this is the guy you're defending. I wonder how well the quote often misattributed to Voltaire, "I may not agree with what you have to say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it", applies in a situation like this one.
That I've opted to destroy his posts in a humiliating fashion instead of leaving them up is no different than the degrading bile he often feels the urge to uncontrollably spew all over the discussion threads.
That we've had to put up with his incoherent rubbish for so long while attempting to simmer down his volatile fury is something that none of us wish to put up with any longer. I've given him many chances, even in this thread, to cut that nonsense out and behave like a normal person and every attempt was met with a personal attack not too different from your own bile. Is it really that enjoyable to deconstruct a person?
If people have personal issues they'd like to address, then they can and should address it in private. This is not your personal Livejournal.
p.s. read more books.
Shadowlol Sep 3, 2009 at 3:44 am
+5 votes
"Yes, this is the guy you're defending."
I'm defending noone.
"I wonder how well the quote often misattributed to Voltaire, "I may not agree with what you have to say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it", applies in a situation like this one."
Irony anyone?
"This is not your personal Livejournal."
No, just yours right?
"p.s. read more books."
ahhhhh there we go, knew it was missing something.
"Because Ag's angry, personal attacks on Sol, containing stuff that other people on the net have no right to know or read, were removed..... by Sol."
drop in the ocean
I'm defending noone.
"I wonder how well the quote often misattributed to Voltaire, "I may not agree with what you have to say but I'll defend to the death your right to say it", applies in a situation like this one."
Irony anyone?
"This is not your personal Livejournal."
No, just yours right?
"p.s. read more books."
ahhhhh there we go, knew it was missing something.
"Because Ag's angry, personal attacks on Sol, containing stuff that other people on the net have no right to know or read, were removed..... by Sol."
drop in the ocean
Project_Xii Sep 3, 2009 at 3:53 am
-4 votes
It's not Sol's Livejournal, but it is his site. He signed the contract for it, he agreed to uphold the rules Gameriot set for him to continue running it (inlcuding maintaining a degree of professionalism and image). Hellforge is Sol's site, and what happens here reflects on him and GR. Important gaming industry people read this place. You think Brad from Stardock is going to come back here now after Ag's completely unnecessary outburst, where he insulted him and practically half the site? Not a great image.
You're free to come and go as you please, but complaining about the sites admin is pointless. He'll run Hellforge how he wants, I'll run Limit Break how I want, and I'm sure the other portal managers feel the same.
Trust me if this **** had started on Limit, I would have shut it down a lot sooner. If anything Sol is too lenient with you guys.
You're free to come and go as you please, but complaining about the sites admin is pointless. He'll run Hellforge how he wants, I'll run Limit Break how I want, and I'm sure the other portal managers feel the same.
Trust me if this **** had started on Limit, I would have shut it down a lot sooner. If anything Sol is too lenient with you guys.
Shadowlol Sep 3, 2009 at 4:32 am
+6 votes
"but complaining about the sites admin is pointless."
when has that ever stopped anyone?
"where he insulted him and thus practically half the site?"
fixed
"He'll run Hellforge how he wants"
oh i'm quite sure he will
"Trust me if this **** had started on Limit, I would have shut it down a lot sooner"
which would have been perfectly fine. Sol, in his infinite wisdom, chose instead to egg him on. He knew exactly what response he was going to get, maybe his insults were better disguised but they were just as penetrating. Only after engaging (and losing) the argument did he decide to do anything about it, then come back for the last word as if that wasnt enough.
"Hellforge is Sol's site, and what happens here reflects on him"
Exactly.
If he had wanted to clean up the site he would have deleted everything. Nono what Sol wanted was to clean up his IMAGE and gain the upper hand using cheap tactics.
Notice whos side of the dispute is still in plain sight? Guess he doesn't care THAT much about the atmosphere after all.
You're a good guy Xii, and I know you're just defending your friend and colleague, but you cant say you condone this ****.
when has that ever stopped anyone?
"where he insulted him and thus practically half the site?"
fixed
"He'll run Hellforge how he wants"
oh i'm quite sure he will
"Trust me if this **** had started on Limit, I would have shut it down a lot sooner"
which would have been perfectly fine. Sol, in his infinite wisdom, chose instead to egg him on. He knew exactly what response he was going to get, maybe his insults were better disguised but they were just as penetrating. Only after engaging (and losing) the argument did he decide to do anything about it, then come back for the last word as if that wasnt enough.
"Hellforge is Sol's site, and what happens here reflects on him"
Exactly.
If he had wanted to clean up the site he would have deleted everything. Nono what Sol wanted was to clean up his IMAGE and gain the upper hand using cheap tactics.
Notice whos side of the dispute is still in plain sight? Guess he doesn't care THAT much about the atmosphere after all.
You're a good guy Xii, and I know you're just defending your friend and colleague, but you cant say you condone this ****.
Project_Xii Sep 3, 2009 at 4:48 am
-3 votes
Condone the editing of the posts? I don't care really. If I had been Ag, posting stuff like that, I would have been waiting for them to be removed. He would have known attacks like that wouldn't hang around for long
Sol probably should have stopped, but honestly I don't think anyone expected Ag's reaction to be this bad. Most of the people who replied were jocular, and not really serious. The kind of poking most people do on the net. Ag's always had trouble recognizing this though (or he chooses not to), and just gets increasingly more nasty and personal in his attacks. Especially when he starts divulging information said in trust during private conversations, I can understand why Sol would retaliate.
Meh, so lots of people at fault, lots of drama unfurled. It was abit late to delete things (which lots of people were asking me and Sol to do cause they were sick of seeing it going on). And being the head of the site, Sol has to bear that burden. Most people would have seen the "words of wisdom" joke as pretty funny. I think some of us did :P
In the end, it shouldn't really affect anyone but Ag. He chose to take Sol's posts so seriously, and to argue with everyone that disagreed with him. He could have just as easily said "Screw you, I'm done" like most people did. He didn't. He ended up raging, and leaving. That's net life. If he's back, he's back. Otherwise, we have a couple hundred thousand readers every month come through here. I'm sure we'll find some writers among them
Sol probably should have stopped, but honestly I don't think anyone expected Ag's reaction to be this bad. Most of the people who replied were jocular, and not really serious. The kind of poking most people do on the net. Ag's always had trouble recognizing this though (or he chooses not to), and just gets increasingly more nasty and personal in his attacks. Especially when he starts divulging information said in trust during private conversations, I can understand why Sol would retaliate.
Meh, so lots of people at fault, lots of drama unfurled. It was abit late to delete things (which lots of people were asking me and Sol to do cause they were sick of seeing it going on). And being the head of the site, Sol has to bear that burden. Most people would have seen the "words of wisdom" joke as pretty funny. I think some of us did :P
In the end, it shouldn't really affect anyone but Ag. He chose to take Sol's posts so seriously, and to argue with everyone that disagreed with him. He could have just as easily said "Screw you, I'm done" like most people did. He didn't. He ended up raging, and leaving. That's net life. If he's back, he's back. Otherwise, we have a couple hundred thousand readers every month come through here. I'm sure we'll find some writers among them
Project_Xii Sep 3, 2009 at 1:09 am
-1 votes
You're kidding me? You're leaving because of a tiff as stupid and meaningless as this? -_-
Dear lord, and you picked on Snail for doing the same thing.
And now Shadowlol is going too? Because Ag's angry, personal attacks on Sol, containing stuff that other people on the net have no right to know or read, were removed..... by Sol. Who's fully within his rights to remove garbage like that on his own site, which he's paid to look after. And where personal attacks as bad as Ag's were in violation of the site rules anyway?
Tsk tsk. Can't say I'm not dissappointed by all this. But whatever. If it means the sites will have less of this crap happening, and a bit more proper discussion and maturity, so be it.
You're welcome to come back later if you want, guys. Just don't expect any apologies.
Dear lord, and you picked on Snail for doing the same thing.
And now Shadowlol is going too? Because Ag's angry, personal attacks on Sol, containing stuff that other people on the net have no right to know or read, were removed..... by Sol. Who's fully within his rights to remove garbage like that on his own site, which he's paid to look after. And where personal attacks as bad as Ag's were in violation of the site rules anyway?
Tsk tsk. Can't say I'm not dissappointed by all this. But whatever. If it means the sites will have less of this crap happening, and a bit more proper discussion and maturity, so be it.
You're welcome to come back later if you want, guys. Just don't expect any apologies.
Dizko Sep 3, 2009 at 10:43 am
+2 votes
Being that I'm sure you'll check back to see if anyone truly responded to this I'll say this to you Ag.
People have disagreements, it's a part of life. Everyone has their convictions and opinions and that's just how it is. Those convictions and those opinions don't always line up with your own.
In the land where adults play, they can have these kinds of idealistic arguments about what's right and wrong to the point where it comes almost to blows like the argument you and Sol had, and then walk away and get on with their lives. Why? Because they're mature and can realize that people don't always see eye to eye.
However, in the land where children play, they'll stomp their feet and throw a temper tantrum, take their ball and go home.
You walking away, deleting your blogs is exactly that, childish. I'm not sure what you do professionally, but a word of advice: Don't pull **** like that in the real world, because you won't get very far.
You told Sol to grow up, yet you did an extremely childish thing yourself. How you don't realize that speaks to your level of maturity. The mature thing would be to ignore Sol and be on with your business. You seem to think that it's you way or the highway, clearly you chose the highway. Shame really, you're a good writer.
Good luck with your future endeavors Ag, I hope this has been a learning experience for you.
One last word of advice, no matter how mad or how pissed off at someone you might be, burning bridges is a HORRIBLE idea. Turn the other cheek, swallow your pride and move on, otherwise life will hand you your ass.
People have disagreements, it's a part of life. Everyone has their convictions and opinions and that's just how it is. Those convictions and those opinions don't always line up with your own.
In the land where adults play, they can have these kinds of idealistic arguments about what's right and wrong to the point where it comes almost to blows like the argument you and Sol had, and then walk away and get on with their lives. Why? Because they're mature and can realize that people don't always see eye to eye.
However, in the land where children play, they'll stomp their feet and throw a temper tantrum, take their ball and go home.
You walking away, deleting your blogs is exactly that, childish. I'm not sure what you do professionally, but a word of advice: Don't pull **** like that in the real world, because you won't get very far.
You told Sol to grow up, yet you did an extremely childish thing yourself. How you don't realize that speaks to your level of maturity. The mature thing would be to ignore Sol and be on with your business. You seem to think that it's you way or the highway, clearly you chose the highway. Shame really, you're a good writer.
Good luck with your future endeavors Ag, I hope this has been a learning experience for you.
One last word of advice, no matter how mad or how pissed off at someone you might be, burning bridges is a HORRIBLE idea. Turn the other cheek, swallow your pride and move on, otherwise life will hand you your ass.
Project_Xii Sep 3, 2009 at 11:12 am
+1 votes
How dare you bring calm and logic to a rageument. Shame on you Dizko. We have no room for your "rationality" here.
Heh, well, this was no doubt going to happen one way or the other. Ag had been pissed about... well... everything since he got back from the Army. It was either this post or another one.
Maybe one day we'll see him again.... but probably not. At least, not under the Ag name. His pride will keep him from coming back, because it'll somehow make Sol "right". Or something. God knows what that means.
The moral to the story? Red porsches are AWESOME!
Heh, well, this was no doubt going to happen one way or the other. Ag had been pissed about... well... everything since he got back from the Army. It was either this post or another one.
Maybe one day we'll see him again.... but probably not. At least, not under the Ag name. His pride will keep him from coming back, because it'll somehow make Sol "right". Or something. God knows what that means.
The moral to the story? Red porsches are AWESOME!
Dizko Aug 28, 2009 at 10:15 am
+5 votes
It's the principle of it. When you park like that you're saying "This car is worth more than a handicap person being able to park, and I'm ok with that because I don't want my very expensive car to get scratched."
Lusida Aug 28, 2009 at 1:26 pm
-3 votes
What about you post it on "USA Today".
Somewhere between the articles about
"anthrax",
"madonna pregnant",
"naked youth",
"terrorism"
"brad "gimp hunter" did it again"
with a big pic of yourself "Protector of the disabled, our hero".
Somewhere between the articles about
"anthrax",
"madonna pregnant",
"naked youth",
"terrorism"
"brad "gimp hunter" did it again"
with a big pic of yourself "Protector of the disabled, our hero".
Agamemnon Aug 28, 2009 at 2:05 pm
+2 votes
What is the Sound of the Single Hand? When you clap together both hands a sharp sound is heard; when you raise the one hand there is neither sound nor smell. Is this the High Heaven of which Confucius speaks? Or is it the essentials of what Yamamba describes in these words: "The echo of the completely empty valley bears tidings heard from the soundless sound?" This is something that can by no means be heard with the ear.
If conceptions and discriminations are not mixed within it and it is quite apart from seeing, hearing, perceiving, and knowing, and if, while walking, standing, sitting, and reclining, you proceed straightforwardly without interruption in the study of this koan, you will suddenly pluck out the karmic root of birth and death and break down the cave of ignorance. Thus you will attain to a peace in which the phoenix has left the golden net and the crane has been set free of the basket. At this time the basis of mind, consciousness, and emotion is suddenly shattered; the realm of illusion with its endless sinking in the cycle of birth and death is overturned.
The treasure accumulation of the Three Bodies and the Four Wisdoms is taken away, and the miraculous realms of the Six Supernatural Powers and Three Insights is transcended.
If conceptions and discriminations are not mixed within it and it is quite apart from seeing, hearing, perceiving, and knowing, and if, while walking, standing, sitting, and reclining, you proceed straightforwardly without interruption in the study of this koan, you will suddenly pluck out the karmic root of birth and death and break down the cave of ignorance. Thus you will attain to a peace in which the phoenix has left the golden net and the crane has been set free of the basket. At this time the basis of mind, consciousness, and emotion is suddenly shattered; the realm of illusion with its endless sinking in the cycle of birth and death is overturned.
The treasure accumulation of the Three Bodies and the Four Wisdoms is taken away, and the miraculous realms of the Six Supernatural Powers and Three Insights is transcended.
Shadowlol Sep 1, 2009 at 9:43 pm
+2 votes
Lusida said
What about you post it on "USA Today".
Somewhere between the articles about
"anthrax",
"madonna pregnant",
"naked youth",
"terrorism"
"brad "gimp hunter" did it again"
with a big pic of yourself "Protector of the disabled, our hero".
Somewhere between the articles about
"anthrax",
"madonna pregnant",
"naked youth",
"terrorism"
"brad "gimp hunter" did it again"
with a big pic of yourself "Protector of the disabled, our hero".
Island Dog Aug 28, 2009 at 3:57 pm
+6 votes
I can't believe people are making such an issue out of this.
1. It's private property
2. It's clearly after hours
1. It's private property
2. It's clearly after hours
Vagabond Aug 28, 2009 at 4:07 pm
+3 votes
I have to agree with Island Dog, even though I'm the guy that put the link in the Facebook comment. It's just a running joke in a gaming community I'm part of. Didn't expect it to be glorified like this.
Dizko Aug 28, 2009 at 4:12 pm
+2 votes
Why not, it's funny
A lot of people take things too seriously, this is no different. I thought your comment was good, the picture just sealed it
I doubt anyone has any real beef with Wardell, Stardock is a pretty stand up company more so when it comes to gaming and consumer advocacy.
A lot of people take things too seriously, this is no different. I thought your comment was good, the picture just sealed it
I doubt anyone has any real beef with Wardell, Stardock is a pretty stand up company more so when it comes to gaming and consumer advocacy.
Vagabond Aug 28, 2009 at 4:14 pm
+2 votes
Oh, I agree. I adore Stardock and what they do. It's just a hilarious image picturing Wardell so eager to work he drives into the lot 70mph and dashes into the door.
That's how I picture it, anyway.
That's how I picture it, anyway.
Dizko Aug 28, 2009 at 4:16 pm
+2 votes
Now that is an interest perspective haha. Everyone always assumes the worst, maybe he was just really excited to work. Perhaps that's the WHOLE reason he owns a Porsche in the first place. He can get to work faster, he drifts into the first open spot he sees, jumps out and runs in.
Never thought to look at it that way hahaha
Never thought to look at it that way hahaha
Sol Invictus Aug 28, 2009 at 5:31 pm
+3 votes
I don't think anyone's really making an issue of it. It's just really, really hilarious.
flashdim Aug 28, 2009 at 5:45 pm
+5 votes
I actually took the original picture; we took a "pilgrimage" there when we found my wife was subbing at a school down the street. I took the pics with my cell, an LG env2. We guessed it was Wardell's and lolled.
A friend of mine (Caligula) actually had a ticket open with Stardock RE:Demigod and mentioned the picture - oddly enough the CSA actually confirmed it was his! The ticket was about the discount they were offering for Stardock at the time, which we did end up getting.
Edit: and yes, I can confirmed it was weeeeellll after hours.
A friend of mine (Caligula) actually had a ticket open with Stardock RE:Demigod and mentioned the picture - oddly enough the CSA actually confirmed it was his! The ticket was about the discount they were offering for Stardock at the time, which we did end up getting.
Edit: and yes, I can confirmed it was weeeeellll after hours.
Frogboy Aug 28, 2009 at 7:17 pm
+4 votes
Brad here,
Just a head's up: Yes, it's my car and for the humor impaired, we posed it like that on purpose precisely because it is offensively funny - a Porsche 911 turbo in a handicap spot. They have a special place in hell for that.
Just a head's up: Yes, it's my car and for the humor impaired, we posed it like that on purpose precisely because it is offensively funny - a Porsche 911 turbo in a handicap spot. They have a special place in hell for that.
flashdim Aug 28, 2009 at 8:47 pm
+4 votes
Agreed, it's the same reason I took the picture - I thought it was funny.
We even joked after taking it about how there was no way we thought it coulda been Wardell - "The guy with an awesome stance on piracy who gives away freebies and discounts parks like a jerk? Naaaaaah."
We even joked after taking it about how there was no way we thought it coulda been Wardell - "The guy with an awesome stance on piracy who gives away freebies and discounts parks like a jerk? Naaaaaah."
Kossak Aug 30, 2009 at 8:08 am
+0 votes
omg, don't you have anything else to write about? Like a cheap magazine with gossips.
Sol Invictus Aug 30, 2009 at 7:30 pm
-1 votes
It was/is funny. Dizko thought it was funny. I thought it was funny. Brad thought it was funny. Anyone still moaning about this needs to grow up. That is all.
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